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Both PC and XBox versions are included.

This game can be played with the keyboard, but the gamepad provides a much better experience.]]> bdev13 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 13:20:11 +0000 en http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 13:36:32 +0000 veedub Comments http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2
This definately is fun and maybe we can combine some of the stuff in ours. I'd say room for improvement in the player animation and maybe some more things like high score list.]]> http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 13:40:00 +0000 bdev13 Comments http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 13:41:29 +0000 Derek Comments http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2
Here's another coincidence: I woke up at precisely the second that the other Bezerker was posted. When I looked at the project I saw that it had been posted "1 second ago".]]> http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 13:47:04 +0000 bdev13 Comments http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:18:12 +0000 Derek Comments http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:27:38 +0000 bdev13 Comments http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:40:49 +0000 sonyice Comments http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2
Evil Otto starts coming out so soon.]]> http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:52:22 +0000 bdev13 Comments http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2
I played around with various Otto times, but really wanted him to be a menace to the player.]]> http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:53:24 +0000 sonyice Comments http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2
However, the "You cannot win. Give up now or die." quip is correct. I cannot get past level 10 because it seems impossible to leave without getting blasted to smithereens.]]> http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 15:01:29 +0000 bdev13 Comments http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 15:46:28 +0000 sonyice Comments http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 if (gameTime.TotalRealTime.TotalSeconds - this.dyingStartTime >= Bezerker3DGame.dyingDelay)
yadda yadda

Obviously, if I replace that with TotalGameTime it'll work for me. Whether I'm the only person on the planet for whom this happens, I don't know, but at least it's consistent...

I was thinking that an improvement to make this somewhat more playable would be to allow pressing a button to maintain firing in the same direction. This way you could walk to the right while firing to the left. As soon as you let go of the modifier key, it would fire in the direction you're walking.

So, while I realize you were being faithful to the orginal (and therefore the original was seriously flawed), a game that forces you to die because it becomes impossible is flawed design.]]> http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 15:51:58 +0000 bdev13 Comments http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2
I didn't allow firing a different direction than you're facing for exactly the reason you mention (the original didn't allow it). I didn't want to start deviating from the original because I know that once I start deviating, I'll never stop adding stuff. I may cap the difficulty at a lower level to make things more fair...]]> http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 16:41:26 +0000 bdev13 Comments http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 17:00:56 +0000 bdev13 Comments http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2
I also updated my Snake game to change all occurences of TotalRealTime to TotalGameTime to fix the problems you were having.]]> http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 Mon, 19 Feb 2007 01:14:31 +0000 relsoft Comments http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 Mon, 19 Feb 2007 05:50:44 +0000 bdev13 Comments http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2
relsoft: Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it.]]> http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:07:59 +0000 sonyice Comments http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2
I should probably submit my TotalRealTime bug to the XNA team somewhere.]]> http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:41:14 +0000 bdev13 Comments http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2
Yeah, I'd be interested to know how prevalent the TotalRealTime problem is...]]> http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:45:02 +0000 SwampThingTom Comments http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2
But I disagree that you are matching the difficulty of the original. Evil Otto didn't come out so fast in the original. The original certainly did ramp up in difficulty quickly, but it did so by putting more robots on the screen, not by forcing you to face the unkillable Otto so quickly. This gave you a chance to get good at shooting things rapidly instead of forcing you to run away.

Also, it looked like the robots could fire through walls, although I haven't looked at the collision detection code to be sure, so maybe this was just a case where the 3d rendering didn't look quite right.

Another nitpick is that I would have preferred the control scheme to use both thumbsticks (like the original) rather than forcing you to run in the same direction you are firing.

I hope you take these comments as constructive criticism. I'm being harsher on this game than on other XNA games I've played because you've already proven to me that you're a good game programmer!

Despite my criticisms, this is definitely in the top 10 XNA games I've played.

Sonyice -- you made it to level 21?!? Remind me not to play Halo deathmatch against you...]]> http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 Tue, 20 Feb 2007 21:08:33 +0000 bdev13 Comments http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2
I can't say that I put a lot of in-depth thought into Otto's delay interval. I more or less just picked a number. It's pretty easy to change/delay Otto's appearance in each level. There's a variable that is used to scale his appearance time. I don't have the source in front of me, but it's in the OttosRevengeGame class. You can look at the constant declarations and the readLevel() method to see how it is used and can be modified.

If you look at the radar, you will see that the number of robots does increase with each level like the original.

I know that there are some collision issues with shots and robots and/or the player near walls. The issue is that the distance travelled per frame by the shots can exceed the wall width so the bounding spheres sometimes "miss" the intersection. I'd probably just need to extend the collision detection to consider the area travelled during the frame as well as the current position of the shots.

I didn't think the original used two joysticks (one to move, one to shoot). I know Robotron does, but I didn't think Berzerk did (but I played the Atari 2600 version more than than the arcade version).
Updating the game to use both thumbsticks wouldn't take that long (Probably half an hour or so).

Thanks for all the feedback. I know there are some rough edges. The most difficult thing about casual game design is keeping yourself interested in a given project long enough to keep polishing it.]]> http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 Wed, 21 Feb 2007 13:59:06 +0000 SwampThingTom Comments http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 I didn't think the original used two joysticks (one to move, one to
> shoot). I know Robotron does, but I didn't think Berzerk did (but I
> played the Atari 2600 version more than than the arcade version).

Whoops, you're right. Guess I've been playing too much Robitron on XBLA recently...

> The most difficult thing about casual game design is keeping
> yourself interested in a given project long enough to keep
> polishing it.

Amen to that. I'm trying to stay focused on my next XNA project but I keep thinking of other things that would be fun to try to do...]]> http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:29:03 +0000 sonyice Comments http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 > Yeah, I'd be interested to know how
>> prevalent the TotalRealTime problem is...

It's a confirmed bug:
http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1268300&SiteID=1]]> http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:34:07 +0000 Derek Comments http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:34:55 +0000 Derek Comments http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2 Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:38:57 +0000 bdev13 Comments http://www.gameprojects.com/project?id=c6f9a3c4c2
Yeah. I saw your post on the MSDN forums a little earlier. Weird that it only seems to manifest on some machines...]]>